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Join multi-ethnic co-hosts Sara + Misasha - two wickedly smart, heart-led, long-distance best friends - as they help folks talk smarter and think deeper about the world around us.
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35: Still (Un)comfortable: Five Years of Dear White Women (opens the original)
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Five years ago, Sara and Misasha published Dear White Women: Let's Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism - and almost immediately got an email accusing them of being the racist ones for naming it. On this anniversary episode, they finally answer the questions they've never asked each other out loud: What was the hardest feedback they ever received? What's the most quoted, most powerful section of the book? And in a moment of DEI rollbacks and book bans, does the book's message still hold up -
34: The Sound of Silence: Fascism, Nativism, and What's Happening Right Now in America (opens the original)
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Picture a newsroom in Rome under dictator Benito Mussolini's fascist regime in the 1930s. A censor's red pencil moves down a page before it ever reaches a printing press. Now picture a cell phone, right now, tonight: someone typing out a post, reading it back to themselves, and deleting it before they hit send. Two moments, nearly a hundred years apart, but with the same instinct. Silence isn't just what's left when words are cut, or people are quiet. It's something regimes - and sometimes just
33: Redlining Explained: History, Housing Discrimination & the Latest Policy Updates (opens the original)
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If you were with us back in our early days, you remember we did a whole episode on redlining: the history of it, the literal red lines drawn on maps in the 1930s to keep Black and immigrant families out of the mortgage market, and how that legacy still shapes segregation and the racial wealth gap today. We're including that full episode, edited slightly for context, in this conversation. What we didn't fully appreciate back in 2019 is that the episode wasn't just a history lesson where we were l
32: The Psychology of Good and Evil: Raising Active Bystanders with Prof. Ervin Staub (opens the original)
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Here's your chance to listen to a firsthand account of one of the most horrible parts of our recent human history, and how we stop it from happening again. This episode features a conversation with a psychologist whose life's work sits at the intersection of two of humanity's most extreme capacities: the capacity for cruelty, and the capacity for courage. A survivor of the Holocaust in Hungary, hiding in Budapest as a six-year-old, he became a leading researcher on the psychology of genocide, gr
31: The Words We Use, The People We Judge: A Conversation on Incarceration with Marcus Bullock (opens the original)
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Do you know someone who's been incarcerated? Have you ever actually asked them their story, instead of judging them on that one fact? Because 95% of incarcerated people eventually leave prison and come home. They are our neighbors, our coworkers, our family members. Here's why this is relevant to you today: This administration has made "tough on crime" the centerpiece of its second term - among other things, reviving the federal death penalty, pushing back against cashless bail reform, and press
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