Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples
Two Plus Two is a space for the conversations most couples aren’t having… but probably should be. Zack and Josie explore connection, intimacy, and relationships through honest, vulnerable discussions.
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Ep 77: You’re Not Wrong… and Neither Is She: Intimacy and Sex in the Lifestyle (opens the original)
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Zack and Josie are on their own again as they tackle a listener’s difficult question about navigating the lifestyle when partners have very different ideas about intimacy, emotions, and what feels comfortable. Only three months into the lifestyle, the listener and his wife have formed a strong four-way connection with another couple. He wants to develop a close, sensual relationship with the other wife while still viewing and desiring the relationship as something shared between the two couples.
Ep 76: Naughty N’awlins: Five Days of Play, Pleasure & Pushing the Limits (opens the original)
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For the first time, Zack and Josie recorded an episode of Two Plus Two entirely on their own—and they had plenty to talk about. They share the highs and lows of their first Naughty N’awlins experience, an event they had heard only positive things about. In a little nod to their previous conversation about taboo, they stepped well outside their normal routine and had five back-to-back play experiences , playing every day they were there. They discuss the positives and negatives of doing that and
Ep 75: Taboo: Exploring the Lifestyle Despite Society’s Rules (opens the original)
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Genie and Dr. G join Zack and Josie for their first appearance on the podcast. For more than a decade, they have created lifestyle events designed to give couples—and eventually singles—a safe, discreet and inclusive place to explore their sexuality. Through Genie Wishes, Arizona Fantasy Club and their fastest-growing group, Hot Wife Community, consent and respect are at the heart of everything they do. The conversation explores what it means to participate in a lifestyle that society often cons
Ep 74: A Unicorn Finds Her Match: Community, Chemistry & Commitment (opens the original)
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Zack and Josie welcome new guests Rick and Gwen for a conversation about their unique journey navigating the lifestyle together. After meeting a little over a year ago, the two began building their connection while exploring how the lifestyle would fit into their relationship. When they met, Gwen was already a unicorn in the lifestyle, while Rick brought extensive experience as a pleasure Dom. Together, they have had to navigate the changes that came with shifting from individual experiences to
Ep 73: Fairness: Biology, Boundaries & Bullshit (opens the original)
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Brad and Jenni return to join Zack and Josie for a spirited conversation about one of the most debated concepts in the lifestyle: fairness. From honoring commitments and navigating separate play to managing insecurities and expectations, the couples explore how they define fairness within their own relationships—and whether it even belongs in the equation. Along the way, they tackle questions about attraction, opportunity, biology, and the unique challenges that arise when partners don't always
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