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Welcome to PSI's Tried and Tested Podcast - hosted by Isabelle Gonthier! Join us as we bring in special guests to cover critical topics such as DE&I, AI, and more as well as answering some of the biggest questions in testing.
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Reaching the Future Workforce: Messaging, Value, and Candidate Demand with NBCOT’s Angela Macauley (opens the original)
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In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP , speaks with Angela Macauley, PMP, President and CEO of the National Board for Certification in Occupational Therapy, about workforce demand, candidate pipelines, and the role credentialing organizations can play in helping professions stay visible, relevant, and understood. Drawing on nearly 20 years at NBCOT across marketing, communications, governance, strategy, and organizational leadership, Angela shares a broad pers
From School to Skills: Rethinking Assessment, Credentials, and Workforce Readiness with Chad Buckendahl (opens the original)
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In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Chad Buckendahl, PhD, ICE-CCP, Managing Partner at ACS Ventures, about how assessment, credentials, and workforce readiness can be better connected across the learner journey. Drawing on his work in program design, evaluation, standard setting, policy, legal issues, and validation studies across credentialing and education, Chad explores why school, work, and professional credentialing should not be treated as
Start Small, Build Trust, Scale Up: WPI’s Approach to AI in Credentialing (opens the original)
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In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Haley Vanness, CAE, ICE-CCP, CMP, AAiP, Vice President of Water Professionals International, about WPI’s journey toward building trust in AI adoption. Drawing on her work leading certification programs for water and wastewater professionals, Haley shares how WPI approached AI intentionally, starting with a practical use case that could support candidates, engage subject matter experts, and build confidence with
Taking the Future of Credentialing from Conversation to Practice with Pam Young Brown (opens the original)
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In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Pam Young Brown, a product strategy consultant working at the intersection of skills assessment, credentialing, and workforce development. Drawing on her experience leading certification and learning products at Amazon Web Services and the Graduate Management Admission Council, Pam shares a practical perspective on where credentialing is headed and what it takes to build programs that remain meaningful as skill
AI and the New Challenges Facing Educational Testing with UMass Amherst’s Stephen Sireci (opens the original)
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In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Stephen G. Sireci, Ph.D., Distinguished Professor and Executive Director of the Center for Educational Assessment at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, about AI and the new challenges facing educational testing. Drawing on his work in psychometrics, validity, fairness, educational measurement, and test development, Stephen explores how AI is reshaping what assessment professionals can do, and what they mu
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