The Second Voice with Luisa Hogan
Every leader has two voices — the one they speak with, and the one they live with. The Second Voice brings the latter into the open.
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S3E9: The Hidden Emotional Cost of High Performance with Steve Barton (opens the original)
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Most people think high performers are confident. But what if the very voice driving their success is also quietly draining their peace, relationships, and sense of self? Today's conversation explores the hidden emotional patterns leaders carry behind achievement — and why success alone never silences the second voice. Today's guest is Steve Barton — executive coach, author, and creator of The Game of Ten®, a powerful awareness-based framework helping leaders operate at their highest level of cla
S3E8: Why Strong Leaders Learn to Wait with Bill Derrick (opens the original)
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Most leaders believe resilience means pushing harder, staying strong, and finding answers fast. But what happens when life puts you in a season where nothing can be forced forward — not your business, not your health, not your future? Today's conversation is about the inner battle of learning how to stand steady when everything around you feels uncertain. My guest today is Bill Derrick. Bill is a family business leader with over 50 years of experience in the construction industry. He helped lead
S3E7: The Truth About Healing Nobody Wants to Hear with Bron Watson (opens the original)
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What happens when "stay positive" stops feeling supportive and starts feeling like pressure? Today's conversation is about the emotional weight of being expected to fight, inspire, and stay strong while privately trying to make sense of fear, uncertainty, and identity. Because sometimes healing begins the moment we stop performing resilience for everyone else. Today's guest is Bron Watson, founder of The Social Coach and The Serenity Project. After decades working as a nurse, educator, and busin
S3E6: The Third Turn Every Leader Eventually Faces with Mark Vincent (opens the original)
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Most leaders spend decades chasing success without ever asking what happens after they reach it. But eventually, there comes a quieter season where achievement no longer answers the deeper questions , and many leaders realize they've built a career without preparing for who they'll become beyond it. Mark L. Vincent, Ph.D., EPC, is a pioneer in multiple fields and partners with accomplished Third-Turn leaders committed to developing the current and next generation of effective leadership. He is a
S3E5: You're Living in 2D with Mark Zan (opens the original)
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You've been solving the same problem for years in and not gotten anywhere, and you've assumed the answer is to push harder — because on the map you're using, harder is one of only two directions available. My guest today says that map is missing a dimension, and that most of us have flattened our lives to fit it. And he has already proven this to me through his work with me. Welcome back to The Second Voice, where we uncover the conversations leaders don't say out loud. I'm Luisa Hogan, and toda
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