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The IT/OT Insider Podcast - Pioneers & Pathfinders

How can we really digitalize our Industry? Join us as we navigate through the innovations and challenges shaping the future of manufacturing and critical infrastructure.

Podcast · By By David Ariens and Willem van Lammeren · English · Official site

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Sep 21, 2026
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  1. Episode · Sep 21, 2026

    Richard Beeson on Four Decades of Industrial Data (opens the original)

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    Richard Beeson wrote one of the two forewords to our IT/OT Handbook . Our book launches on 6 October , so having him on the podcast now felt like the right way to close the loop. What makes the pairing work is that our two foreword writers came at it from opposite ends. Richard brought the OT-first perspective, John Smart the IT-first one. Different starting points, different vocabulary, but… they end up in more or less the same place. Richard describes himself as “a chemical engineer gone bad”.

  2. Episode · Sep 14, 2026

    Full Circle: The Gene Kim Interview (opens the original)

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    This is an episode we were hoping for since we started this podcast 🙂 Gene Kim has spent twenty-eight years studying high-performing technology organisations and wrote best-selling books such as The Phoenix Project , The DevOps Handbook , Wiring the Winning Organization , and most recently Vibe Coding . He also runs the conference where the two of us first stood on a stage and tried to explain the IT/OT problem to a room full of technology leaders. Gene set the tone in the first minute: “I’ve be

  3. Episode · Aug 4, 2026

    Nail It, Then Scale It: What Ontology Actually Means on a Factory Floor (opens the original)

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    We went a bit further than usual to talk to Bob van de Kuilen , because New Zealand is roughly the outer edge of what our time zones will allow 😀 Bob is the CEO and co-founder of Thred , and before that he spent twenty-five years in continuous improvement consulting: walking into manufacturing businesses, watching them fumble to measure themselves properly, and slowly realising that the real obstacle was never the sensor. It was context. Or rather, the almost total absence of it once you got pas

  4. Episode · Jul 22, 2026

    From Platforms to Outcomes: Vatsal Shah on What Industrial AI Actually Needs (opens the original)

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    (Our topic, Our tone, Sponsored by Litmus.io *) Two years ago, roughly every second booth at Hannover Messe had the word “AI” on it. This year the tone has shifted. Less about the layer you buy, more about the outcome you’re trying to deliver. That shift is what Vatsal Shah , co-founder and CEO of Litmus , came on the podcast to unpack. It’s also the first time he’d talked publicly about how Litmus rethought its own strategy around this idea. Coming from the CEO of one of the more established in

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