HeyJaredThe Hard Way With Joe De Sena
Learn the Spartan mindset. Founder & CEO of Spartan Race and NY Times best-selling author, travels the globe seeking and answers authors, academics, athletes, adventurers, entrepreneurs, CEOs and thought leaders.
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Ashley Hunter on FitKids, 195 Schools, and Why Kids Need Hard Things Before They Need Anything Else (opens the original)
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Ashley Hunter walked away from investment banking to teach kids how to move. Fifteen years later, Fit Kids operates in 195 schools across 13 states and has reached roughly 500,000 children. Joe De Sena sits down with Ashley to talk about why kids who already face hard lives every day benefit most from structured physical activity, how her program turns reluctant participants into kids who say burpees are their favorite exercise, and what any parent can do at home with zero equipment and zero mon
Tyler Andrews on Surviving Aplastic Anemia, Running Everest in 9:55, and a Decade of Grinding (opens the original)
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Joe De Sena sits down with Tyler Andrews, a cancer survivor turned elite endurance athlete who just set the fastest known time from Everest Base Camp to the summit: 9 hours and 55 minutes, breaking a 23-year-old record held by Lakpa Gelu by over an hour. This episode breaks down exactly how Tyler trained for Everest with hypoxic machines simulating 38,000 feet, a 6,000-foot mountain climb five days a week out his back door in Quito, and a strength program built with a Tour de France-level perfor
Mark Allen, Dane Miller, James Lawrence, and Leif Babin on Daily Consistency, the Three Best Lifts, and Extreme Ownership (opens the original)
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Joe De Sena opens this Labor Day episode with a direct question: what does it actually look like to show up every day, year after year, with no days off? Six-time Ironman World Champion Mark Allen, now 67, explains why consistency beats intensity at every age and how to stop competing with your younger self. Olympic strength coach Dane Miller breaks down the ESSE framework for matching training to any goal and names the three lifts most athletes avoid because they are hard: front squat, pull-up,
Andy Stumpf on Getting Shot, Watching Hundreds Quit SEAL Training, and Why Momentum Beats Direction (opens the original)
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Andy Stumpf's BUD/S class started with 180 students. 18 graduated. As a BUD/S instructor years later, he got to do something most SEALs never do: sit down with the hundreds who quit and ask them why. The answer was almost always the same. Joe De Sena talks with Andy, a retired SEAL Team Six operator who was shot during a 2005 deployment, spent eighteen months rehabbing neuropathic nerve damage, and went on to fly charter jets, jump professionally, open a Black Rifle Coffee outpost in Montana, an
Richard Baker and Adam Weitsman on Capital, Discipline, and What Separates Entrepreneurs Who Survive (opens the original)
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Richard Baker raised $700 million in February 2021 and burned through it in three years. Adam Weitsman served time in federal prison, lost his ego, and rebuilt his business with a level of discipline he did not have before. In this episode of The Hard Way , Joe De Sena sits down with both entrepreneurs to break down what really separates the people who survive in business from the ones who fold. Richard shares his "zoo bears vs. jungle bears" framework: the era of safe corporate jobs is changing
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