The Eric Ries Show
Founder, entrepreneur, and best-selling author of The Lean Startup Eric Ries discusses how to build profitable companies for the long-term benefit of society.
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How Veeva Became the First Public Company to Convert to a Public Benefit Corporation | Peter Gassner (opens the original)
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What if maximizing shareholder value can actually make a company less valuable? Peter Gassner is the founder and CEO of Veeva Systems, a cloud software company serving the life sciences industry. Before founding Veeva, Peter built enterprise software at IBM, PeopleSoft, and Salesforce. Under his leadership, Veeva became the first publicly traded company to convert to a public benefit corporation. In this episode of The Eric Ries Show, Peter joins me to explain why profit is necessary for a healt
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