HeyJaredThe Contemplative Pastor
For the pastor who longs to embody a less hurried, less overwhelmed, less CEO-like form of leadership, and to recover the ancient path of pastoring in the way of Jesus.The Contemplative Pastor features insightful teachings from guides and sages on key topics within spiritual…
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Paying Close Attention to Your Season (Featuring Tara Beth Leach) (opens the original)
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What would it look like to build rhythms that respond to lives that are always changing? In this episode, join Bryan Rouanzoin and Tara Beth Leach for a conversation about shepherding through the ups and downs of real life—our own and the lives of the people in our care. Tara Beth recalls how navigating the emotional requirements of pastoral ministry while caring for her aging parents created a desperate need for new rhythms in her life, and specifically her mornings. Drawing from her lived expe
What Grows When We Stay (Featuring Jess Gracewski) (opens the original)
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What might happen if we decided to stay— in a place, in a community, in a calling? In this episode, join Bryan Rouanzoin and Jess Gracewski for a conversation about what we might gain—and risk—by choosing to commit to a community and a place. Jess describes how she’s building spaces of belonging in one of the most transient cities on earth and choosing to steward people with intention for as long or short a time as they’re in her care. Drawing from her own story, she shares why calling is the wo
Discerning Weariness from Woundedness (Featuring Glenn Packiam) (opens the original)
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What happens when we make peace with the reality that there are no ideal conditions in which to pastor? In this episode, join Jay Kim and Glenn Packiam for a conversation on finding “your little patch of the world” to be the pastor God has called you to be. Glenn traces the through line of his “misfit” ministry career and the crisis that led him into Eugene Peterson's mentorship, where he first heard the words he would return to again and again : "there are no ideal conditions in which to live o
When the Yoke Doesn’t Feel Easy Anymore (Featuring Bill Dogterom) (opens the original)
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What if our weariness as pastors isn’t a sign of failure, but rather a sign that we’re measuring success by the wrong metric? In this episode, Bryan Rouanzoin and Bill Dogterom seek to reconcile Jesus’ promise of an “easy yoke” with the pervasive weariness so many pastors experience today. Bill shares how his own weariness sparked a life-changing shift from a church-growth mindset to a formation mindset. He and Bryan discuss the three spiritual practices that help “keep the yoke easy,” why he in
Letting God Burn Away the Fantasy Self (Featuring Todd Pickett) (opens the original)
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What if the most vital work of spiritual formation isn’t first in your church, but in the hidden story you’re already living with God? In this episode, join Bryan Rouanzoin and Todd Pickett for a conversation on what it means to truly be a contemplative, and the fruit of a life lived this way. Drawing from Todd’s journey through the university and into the local church, they explore how literature and poetry became his training ground for spiritual formation. Along the way, they discuss the esse
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