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The Backstage Pastors Podcast is dedicated to the unique challenges and opportunities facing executive pastors and second-chair leaders in churches and nonprofits.
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Holly Tate on the "Yes Test" with Your Senior Leader (opens the original)
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Executive pastors and second-chair leaders are often responsible for turning a senior leader’s vision into action—but what happens when there are more ideas than the organization can realistically execute? Holly Tate of The Ready Network joins Phil and Tyler to discuss sustainable growth, second-chair leadership, and becoming “yes-obsessed.” Holly introduces the Yes Test , a five-question framework that helps church leaders evaluate new opportunities, protect organizational focus, and determine
From Executive Pastor to The Gospel Coalition with Zach Cochran (opens the original)
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Zach Cochran, Vice President of Operations at The Gospel Coalition, joins Phil and Tyler to discuss his transition from executive pastor to nonprofit second-chair leadership, the importance of operational leaders in the church, and TGC’s work helping Christians navigate artificial intelligence. He also shares practical wisdom for XPs considering a ministry transition and explains why healthy church leadership often requires patience with the slow, relational nature of ministry. Mentioned Resourc
What Warren Bird’s Latest Research Reveals About Large & Multi-Site Churches (opens the original)
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Dr. Warren Bird joins Phil Taylor and Tyler Drebits to discuss decades of research into the trends shaping churches in America. Warren shares his journey from pastor and church planter to researcher and author, including the unexpected opportunities that led to a writing career spanning 35 books. The conversation focuses on Warren’s latest research into multisite churches and large churches. He shares findings about the continued growth of multisite, the increasing importance of small groups, po
Micro-church movements with Lucas Pulley (opens the original)
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Most executive pastors spend their careers helping churches grow by building systems, hiring staff, and delegating responsibilities. But what happens when the goal isn't building a larger Sunday gathering at all? In this episode, Phil sits down with Lucas Pulley of the Underground Network to explore one of America's largest microchurch movements. Lucas shares his own ministry journey—from campus ministry in Illinois to leading decentralized networks of mission-focused microchurches—and explains
Drew Hyun on Emotional Health for Executive Pastors (opens the original)
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Phil and Tyler sit down with Drew Hyun, Lead Pastor of Hope Church NYC and Executive Director of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship (EHD), to explore why emotional health is foundational for effective ministry leadership. Drew shares his ministry journey—from serving under Pete Scazzero at New Life Fellowship to planting Hope Church NYC and eventually stepping into leadership of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship. He reflects on how becoming a lead pastor revealed the importance of emotional health
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