Stoa Conversations: Stoicism Applied
Caleb Ontiveros and Michael Tremblay discuss how to build resilience, develop virtue, and make sense of the world through Stoic philosophy.One episode a week.Get the Stoa app: www.stoameditation.com/pod [https://www.stoameditation.com/pod]Get the Stoa Letter:…
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The Conquest of Nature | The Abolition of Man Part III (Episode 235) (opens the original)
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Every gain in our power over nature is also a gain in some people’s power over other people.That’s the argument at the center of the final chapter of C.S. Lewis’s The Abolition of Man. Once human nature becomes one more thing to conquer, values stop being handed down and start being engineered. Teachers become conditioners.Caleb and Michael close out the series. They cover what Lewis means by the conquest of nature, why he thinks explaining things can slide into explaining them away, and his pic
Moderation in Pleasure (opens the original)
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The epicure has nothing in common with the chain-smoker; he is closer to the gourmet who concludes a fine meal with a Cuban cigar. He is a master of pleasure and knows how to moderate it, less from a principle of discipline than for the pleasure itself.Ernst Jünger, ApproachesThe Epicurean philosophers believed that the good life was the pleasant one. Like Stoicism, Epicurean philosophy was caricatured, but not completely unfairly. Loosely speaking, an “Epicurean” is someone who likes fine wine
Do not waste the remainder of your life in thoughts about others (opens the original)
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We return to Book 3.3.4Do not waste the remainder of your life in thoughts about others, when you do not refer your thoughts to some object of common utility. For you lose the opportunity of doing something else when you have such thoughts as these, What is such a person doing, and why, and what is he saying, and what is he thinking of, and what is he contriving, and whatever else of the kind makes us wander away from the observation of our own ruling power. We ought then to check in the series
Emily Wilson Doesn’t Understand Stoicism or Epictetus (opens the original)
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Epictetus and His Critics (Episode 234) (opens the original)
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Emily Wilson translated The Odyssey . She also reviewed a new translation of Epictetus, and she wasn’t impressed. Michael thinks she got him wrong. Not because she doesn’t know the ancient world. She does. Because her criticisms rest on misreadings that a lot of smart, well-read people make. Caleb and Michael work through three of them. Epictetus ignores collective action. Epictetus wrote therapy for privileged men. Epictetus is good for pain but bad for love. One of her points lands. The other
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