HeyJaredSecret Third Thing
This is a show about contemporary culture. First Things editors Virginia Aabram and Germán S. Díaz del Castillo discuss modern, online trends. Are they good, bad, or a secret third thing?
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Pope Leo's Unified Church (ft. Fr. James Martin) (opens the original)
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On today's episode, writer Fr. James Martin joins Virginia and Germán. As a Catholic, growing up online meant that the dividing line between “conservative” and “liberal” Catholics was an ever-present reality. Name-calling, accusations of schism, and moral grandstanding were—and still are—common. The general presumption was that the opposite side was arguing in bad faith, and sometimes, some of them were. The factions seemed to be embedded in Catholic culture, dividing themselves among parishes a
Christianity Is Not a Tool (ft. Kelly Chapman) (opens the original)
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On today's episode, writer Kelly Chapman joins Virginia and Germán. According to the discourse, it's fashionable to be religious. There’s also a lot of talk about returning to traditional modes of life–emphasis on getting married, having kids, and going to church. All of this is transgressive according to the liberal default of our wider society, but there’s something lost in all of this talk. Love, romance, family, religion, art—these things are seen as means to an end, a way to save the West o
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