Relentless & Real
Leadership isn’t theory. It’s lived.Hosted by Heather Verity, CEO/Owner of Focus 3, and Jennifer Lawson, Senior Education Consultant and recovering school administrator, Relentless & Real is the podcast for women who lead on purpose and without apology.Here, we don’t just…
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Ep. 36 – Are You Asking Questions or Questioning? (opens the original)
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There’s a difference between asking questions and questioning everything. In this episode of Relentless & Real , Heather Verity and Jennifer Lawson take on a common workplace habit: pushing back for the sake of pushing back. They discuss why phrases like “I want to push back” and “let me play devil’s advocate” can immediately put people on the defensive, and how chronic resistance can undermine trust, alignment, and culture. Heather shares what she has learned about introducing change, recognizi
Ep. 35 – If You Permit It, You Promote It (opens the original)
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Culture is not casual Fridays, company swag, or words printed on a wall. In this episode of Relentless & Real , Heather Verity and Jennifer Lawson break down what culture actually is and why the strongest organizations are intentional about defining it, documenting it, and protecting it. At Focus 3, culture is defined by the beliefs, behaviors, and outcomes an organization consistently produces. Heather and Jenny explain why values alone are not enough, how clear behavioral standards create alig
Ep. 34 – Building Your Leadership Bench (opens the original)
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The best time to prepare your next leader isn't when a position suddenly opens. In this episode of Relentless & Real , Heather Verity and Jennifer Lawson explore what it takes to build a strong leadership bench and why organizations need to intentionally develop emerging leaders before they're needed. They discuss the danger of promoting people based on credentials or necessity without preparing them to lead, how to identify people with real influence and leadership potential, and why aspiring l
Ep. 33 – Run Money, Not Fun Money (opens the original)
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Financial freedom isn't just about what you can afford. It's about having the freedom to choose. In this episode of Relentless & Real , Heather Verity and Jennifer Lawson continue a powerful conversation that began at a recent women's retreat about what Heather calls "run money, not fun money." Heather shares a deeply personal experience that changed the way she thought about financial independence and why she believes everyone should put themselves in a position where money doesn't force them t
Ep. 32 – Resetting Expectations (opens the original)
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Accountability only works when expectations are clear. In the first episode of Season 4, Heather Verity and Jennifer Lawson unpack what it looks like for a leader to recognize when the gap is not simply performance, but clarity. Heather shares a recent experience with the Focus 3 team where she realized her own expectations had outpaced the systems, training, and skills needed to meet them. Instead of putting the responsibility on individual team members, she reset the expectations, clarified wh
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