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“Needed to Hear That” hosted by Chaz and Pondoff, brings real conversations about mental health into real life. Therapist Chaz Franke and Chris Pondoff talk anxiety, trauma, recovery, relationships, and the ongoing work of becoming healthier humans.
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The Lost Art of Doing Nothing | Needed To Hear That Episode 32 (opens the original)
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When was the last time you were actually bored?Not scrolling your phone. Not watching something in the background. Not checking social media, shopping, working, gambling, eating or finding another way to occupy your attention. Just… nothing to do.This week on Needed to Hear That, Chris and Chaz talk about why boredom has become increasingly difficult for us to tolerate and why learning to live with a little of it might actually matter.Chaz explains how our nearly unlimited access to stimulation
Who Takes Care of the Caretaker? | Needed To Hear That Episode 31 (opens the original)
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Who takes care of the people who take care of everyone else? This week on Needed to Hear That, Chaz and Chris talk about caregiving, not just as a profession, but as something almost all of us will be called to do at some point in our lives. The conversation begins with grief and the loss of grandparents, including Chaz reflecting on caring for his grandmother at the end of her life and realizing years later that those small acts of care were some of the most significant things he has ever done.
Needed To Hear That Episode 30: "Not Everyone Has Earned Your Fullest Self" (opens the original)
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What does it actually mean to be authentic? We hear some version of “just be yourself” all the time. The problem is, sometimes figuring out who “yourself” actually is can be the hard part. In Episode 30, Chaz and Chris dig into authenticity, what it looks like in recovery, therapy, relationships, spirituality and everyday life, and why trying to be authentic can sometimes become another expectation we put on ourselves. They talk about Chris's approach to sharing his recovery story and why being
Needed To Hear That Episode 29: "When Did We Stop Playing?" (opens the original)
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When did we decide that play was just for kids? This week on Needed to Hear That , Chaz and Chris explore the role that imagination, creativity and play have in our mental and emotional lives—and why we tend to abandon them as we get older. Chaz shares how storytelling and guided imagination can help us encounter parts of ourselves that we've pushed away, while Chris reflects on parenting, screen time, play therapy and what happens when we stop giving ourselves room to simply mess around. From g
Needed To Hear That Episode 28: "Tied To The Mast" (opens the original)
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Chaz and Chris explore what it really means to have compassion for someone who is struggling — especially when their struggle looks different from your own. Chaz reflects on being invited to speak at a Catholic novena about supporting people healing from addiction and explains why his message centered on one idea: the person struggling with addiction is not separate from us. We’ve all felt pulled toward things we knew weren’t good for us, and pretending otherwise only creates more shame and dist
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