HeyJaredLife Between Titles
Life Between Titles is a podcast about what happens after one chapter ends and before the next begins.Hosted by Savan Kong, this series explores identity, purpose, and personal growth in the moments when life slows down and the job title disappears.
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- Jul 13, 2026
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25 Years at CIA and NGA. Then 13 Surgeries and a Cat Named Keith. (opens the original)
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Liz Sherman was at her desk at CIA when the second plane hit. Her husband was inside the White House Situation Room. She couldn't get a line through. She spent 25 years in American intelligence — imagery analyst at CIA, program mission manager at ODNI, and a career at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency that included a 2009 deployment to Balad Air Base in Iraq and a final posting as National GEOINT Officer for Africa. This is the conversation about what that career cost her, and what she
Kathleen Hicks: Leading the Pentagon as the First Woman in the Room (opens the original)
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Kathleen Hicks became the first Senate-confirmed woman to serve as Deputy Secretary of Defense, the highest-ranking woman in the department's history. She left the role in January 2025, her third time leaving government, after three decades building a career she never approached as a burden to carry, but as a duty to hand off. This is a Work Unscripted conversation about leadership, confidence, and what it actually takes to lead the Pentagon as a woman in a role no woman had held before. In this
She Started as CIO of Maryland 8 Months Pregnant. Here's What She Built. (opens the original)
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Katie Savage took the CIO job for the state of Maryland eight months pregnant. She came from Defense Digital Service, where she learned that the most important thing any technology organization can do is build in-house expertise rather than outsource its thinking to vendors. In Maryland, she found a team that managed contracts. She built a different kind of team. This is a Work Unscripted conversation about what it takes to lead a technology organization at scale, what it's like to be a woman do
Kelli Martin on Book Editing, Publishing's Diversity Gap, and Finding Your Calling at 22 (opens the original)
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Kelli Martin found the job listing in a red binder inside her college's career office. It was for a publicity assistant at Simon & Schuster. She didn't get that job. A month later they called her about a different one, and she said yes before she'd even thought it through. Thirty years later she's edited books at Simon & Schuster, William Morrow, Hyperion, Harlequin, and Amazon Publishing, and she's never once wanted to do anything else.If you enjoy conversations like this one, you can buy me a
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