HeyJaredIt’s Both — Living in the Messy Middle
If you’re living in the tension—mixed emotions, unclear answers, big decisions—this show helps with navigating transitions, overthinking, decision making, and emotional intelligence so you can find clarity and calm in real life.It’s Both is for people who feel the pull of two…
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Starting Over Certain, Not at Peace (opens the original)
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This is starting over with no guarantee it gets easier. Amber Lewis Stewart joins me to talk about the identity shift that started long before she and her wife ever left Tennessee, and the night they finally decided to leave the country for good. In this episode — the lines in the sand they drew years before they crossed them — what it felt like when a friend group they trusted turned distant over the decision to leave — the same night they got the news their last fertility treatment failed and
Transition Anxiety, Live From My Friend's Basement (opens the original)
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This is transition anxiety, recorded live instead of explained after the fact. In this solo episode, Nikki checks in from a friend's basement mid cross-country move, mid job loss, and mid everything else, letting you into the version of starting over that usually only gets told once it's resolved. In this episode — the real timeline of moving from Nashville to Denver with three kids in tow — the liminal space of no lease, no house, and no plan yet — what it actually feels like to start over with
The Messy Middle of Self-Worth, Core Wounds & Becoming (opens the original)
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In the messy middle of chronic illness, self-worth, and giving up good for great, Amy Lenius joins me to talk about the three core wounds that quietly run our lives — unlovable, unwanted, and defective — and how healing starts long before we feel ready. In this episode, Amy shares her decade-long fight for an endometriosis diagnosis, the moment she chose to trust her own body over a system that kept dismissing her — the one question she now asks before every hard choice to protect her self-respe
Betrayal Is a Different Kind of Grief (opens the original)
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The messy middle of betrayal isn't just heartbreak. It sits in your body. It changes how you trust yourself. And it hits differently than any other kind of pain — and Dr. Debi Silber has the research to prove it. She went back to school at 50, in the middle of her own betrayal, to figure out why. What she found became groundbreaking research and a whole movement. In this conversation we talk about what post-betrayal syndrome actually looks like in your everyday life, why most people get stuck an
The Messy Middle of Becoming a Mother (opens the original)
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The messy middle of becoming a mother doesn't end when you leave the hospital. It lives in the identity shift, the mom rage you don't talk about, the grief for who you were before, and the joy that exists right alongside all of it. Dr. Nicole Pensak is a licensed clinical psychologist who specializes in perinatal mental health — and she went through severe postpartum OCD herself, right in the middle of COVID, while her husband worked on the front lines. In this conversation, we talk about what a
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