It's All Relational
It's All Relational is the official WAMFT podcast where we dive into the latest issues shaping the Marriage and Family Therapy profession in Washington State.
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WAMFT 50 w/Dr. Rebecca Cobb (opens the original)
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In the final episode of our fifty-year retrospective, Trevor White sits down with former WAMFT president Dr. Rebecca Cobb, who led the association through one of the most consequential transitions in its history. When AAMFT changed its relationship with state divisions, WAMFT had to decide what kind of organization it wanted to be. Rebecca describes guiding the association through its move to Independent Affiliate status: the questions it raised about identity and sustainability, the work of sta
WAMFT 50 w/Dr. Anthony Pennant (opens the original)
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Trevor White sits down with former WAMFT president Anthony Pennant to talk about two threads that ran through his tenure: pushing the association's anti-racism work past statement and into structure, and building WAMFT into a more active force in Olympia. Anthony describes what it takes to move anti-racist commitments from language into the actual operations of an organization, and the resistance and slowness that come with that work in any professional body. He also walks through the effort to
WAMFT 50 w/Dr. Jennifer Sampson (opens the original)
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Trevor White sits down with Dr. Jennifer Sampson, who led WAMFT through the early stretch of the pandemic, to talk about what the job asks of a president when the ground is moving. Jennifer describes leading an association whose members were absorbing a crisis in their own practices while the organization tried to stay useful to them, and the decisions that came with it about what to cancel, what to rebuild, and what a professional community owes its people in a year like that. She also speaks t
WAMFT 50 w/Dr. Michelle Finley (opens the original)
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Trevor White sits down with Dr. Michelle Finley, WAMFT president from 2021 to 2022, to talk about leading the association through a period when nearly everything about how it operated had to be rebuilt. Michelle describes the push to expand virtual offerings for members, from continuing education to the connective work that had always depended on being in a room together, and the questions that came with it about what an association is when it can't gather. She also walks through the development
WAMFT 50 w/Former President Julie Woods (opens the original)
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In the second episode of our fifty-year retrospective, Trevor White sits down with former WAMFT president Julie Woods to talk about widening the door: who the association was built for, and who it needed to make room for next. Julie describes the creation of the WAMFT scholarship fund and the broader effort to make the association accessible to students, from lowering the practical barriers to participation to building pathways that brought emerging clinicians into the organization early rather
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