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Inconvenient Chats

Climate change is real, accelerating, and profoundly urgent - yet the world isn’t changing quickly or deeply enough.In our experience, many important conversations are being avoided, maybe unintentionally.

Podcast · By Kaisa Virolainen & Jan Kleine · English · Official site

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Sep 9, 2026
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  1. Episode · Sep 9, 2026

    Is sustainability regulation too inconvenient, or is that the point? with Andreas Rasche (opens the original)

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    Is there a backlash against sustainability regulation? Professor Andreas Rasche joins Kaisa for a conversation about corporate sustainability regulation and unpacks the shift from voluntary CSR to today’s sustainability regulation and the current push for simplification. We discuss what makes sustainability regulation effective, whether good regulation is inevitably a little inconvenient if it is meant to drive change, and how to balance ambition, feasibility and predictability.

  2. Episode · Sep 2, 2026

    How do business and human rights fit together? with Salma Houerbi (opens the original)

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    What does it take to make respect for human rights more than a corporate commitment on paper? Kaisa is joined by business and human rights expert Salma Houerbi to explore how the field has evolved from debating whether companies have responsibilities to the much harder question of how to turn them into meaningful outcomes for workers and communities. We discuss the role—and limits—of the business case, why process and reporting are not the same as impact, and why context, power and the voices of

  3. Episode · Jul 28, 2026

    Why is stopping deforestation so difficult? with Markus Kröger (opens the original)

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    In this episode, I sit down with Professor Markus Kröger, who has spent the past two decades researching the political economy of deforestation, resource extraction and global development, with extensive fieldwork in the Amazon and Latin America. Scientists believe the Amazon may be approaching a tipping point — a threshold beyond which parts of the rainforest could gradually shift into a much drier savanna ecosystem. What's particularly concerning is that this could happen long before the entir

  4. Episode · Jul 8, 2026

    How is culture shaped by fossil fuels? with Sakari Säynäjoki (opens the original)

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    Today's guest is Sakari Säynäjoki, a doctoral researcher in Interdisciplinary Environmental Sciences at the University of Helsinki who studies the interdependence between modern societies and fossil fuels. Sakari’s research revolves around how fossil fuels enable not only our material realities, but in addition, shape our culture, values and thinking. The consequence: the green transition is a cultural challenge at least as much as it is a technological one. Does the general understanding and di

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