In The Arena
Leadership is the Difference Maker On this podcast, former CEO of three AFL clubs and founder of designCEO, Cameron Schwab, unlocks leadership and the lessons earned and learned by the very leaders who dare to fail greatly.
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Trent Cotchin - 'Letting the tide out' (opens the original)
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Trent Cotchin captained Richmond through the microwaved membership tickets, the 113-point belting, the noise that had a name on it, and then led them to three premierships with the Richmond Football Club. But the story isn't what changed in the game plan. It's what changed in the man. This is a conversation about the moment he called Ben Crowe and realised he didn't have to do it alone. About the St Rose Cafe meeting with Jack Riewoldt where they stopped making it about themselves and started bu
Michael Voss - 'Courage to always compete' (opens the original)
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Michael Voss has lived a life where pressure meant something great was about to happen. Three-time premiership captain at Brisbane. AFL coach at Carlton. A career spent in the arena with skin in the game. And now he's sitting in what he calls "the grey", the space between what was and what's next. We talk about his mantra, 'courage to always compete', and how that mantra survived every iteration of him. About the daily 20-minute drive that became his leadership practice. About upstream thinking
John Buchanan - 'Know yourself inside out' (opens the original)
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John Buchanan never played Test cricket. Seven first-class games for Queensland. Then, he walked into a dressing room with Warne, McGrath, Ponting, Gilchrist, and the Waugh brothers, handed them Sun Tzu's Art of War , and told them they were going to dominate world cricket. He coached Australia to a 79% win rate, 16 consecutive Test victories, and two World Cups. But it nearly cost him everything. Jobs, relationships, and the constant question of whether he belonged. We go deep on coaching philo
Matt Formston AM - 'Let go of the rope' (opens the original)
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Matt Formston AM is legally blind and has surfed a 51-foot wave at Nazaré. Four-time surfing world champion. Paralympic cyclist. World record holder. Fifteen years at Optus exceeding enterprise sales targets by 140 per cent. But before any of that, Christmas Eve, 3am, blood on his clothes that wasn't his own. This is a conversation about rock bottom, the question "why not?", and what it actually takes to let go of the rope when you can't see the five-story wave you're riding down. We go deep on
Suzie McInerney - 'Brave, not perfect' (opens the original)
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Suzie McInerney is the CEO of Six Degrees Executive, leading a team of 90 across three states in one of Australia's most human-centred recruitment firms. She took the scenic route to CEO. From toy brand manager to running a hatted restaurant, to first employee CEO stepping into a founder-led business at Six Degrees Executive. Then COVID hit 12 months in. Then breast cancer. And through it all, the same lesson kept showing up, pretending to be fine doesn't make you strong. We go deep on psycholog
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