HeyJaredIn-House Outliers
In-House Outliers shares the stories and secrets of those who have taken unconventional paths and challenged conventional notions of how corporate legal departments should operate.
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Turning Legal Into a Revenue Engine with The Planet Group's Steve Jorgensen (opens the original)
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In this episode, Steve Jorgensen shares the philosophy that's guided his approach to compliance since early in his career: start every process by asking what the business is actually trying to achieve, not by defaulting to how it's always been done, and treat business risk, like the loss of a client's trust, as seriously as legal risk, like the threat of a lawsuit. Steve also offers career advice for legal professionals eyeing a pivot, encouraging them to reframe their existing experience as an
Connecting the Dots in the AI Era with Legal Operations Leader Matt Jezierski (opens the original)
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In this episode, legal ops leader Matt Jezierski walks through the pyramid framework he uses to organize a legal department, with regulatory change flowing down through matters, e-billing, and knowledge management, and makes the case that it's time to stop using AI for one-off, discrete tasks and start using it to connect the dots across the whole thing. Matt also breaks down the AI-driven outside counsel engagement manager he had started to build, which used historical spend and industry benchm
Leaving People Happier as a Leader with Flock Safety's Dan Haley (opens the original)
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In this episode, Flock Safety's Dan Haley shares the leadership philosophy that's guided him since a former CEO handed it to him on his first day: make every person you interact with a little happier for having had the interaction with you or your team. Dan also offers career advice on maintaining peripheral vision, cautioning against tunnel vision on a single target role and encouraging listeners to stay open to opportunities that come from outside their direct line of sight, since the best one
The Case for a JD in Legal Ops with Sonnedix's Heather Torres (opens the original)
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In this episode, Sonnedix's Heather Torres argues that legal training isn't required for legal ops , but it's an unlock, and she's got eight and a half years of experience to back it up. Heather explains why legal background changes how lawyers trust you, and how it's shaped her ability to communicate, build credibility, and think strategically inside her legal department. The conversation also covers the chip-on-the-shoulder dynamic between lawyers and legal ops, where legal ops experience can
The Human Side of Legal Technology Adoption with Legal Operations Professional Joe Lewis (opens the original)
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In this episode, Legal Operations Professional Joe Lewis shares why getting lawyers to adopt new technology has nothing to do with the technology itself. Drawing on experiences that stretch from teaching seniors how to use YouTube at a public library to building change management infrastructure inside a fast-moving legal department, Joe makes the case that the real work of adoption happens in casual moments, not formal training sessions. The conversation covers how to break down the "lawyer face
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