HeyJaredHuman Services Change Makers
Change Makers is a podcast dedicated to the public servants who work to strengthen lives and communities across the country. Each episode, Dr.
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Liesl Wendt - Compliance, Creativity, and Compassion (opens the original)
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Liesl Wendt, Director of the Oregon Department of Human Services (ODHS), joins Dr. Deb and Kelly to talk about how compliance doesn’t have to limit creativity, how an over reliance on the text of policy can limit how well the practice works, and how those served by human services should feel welcomed and be treated with dignity when they interact with agencies. Liesl spoke about how her upbringing emphasized service to others, and the ways she’s taken that into her career. Before her current rol
Frank Alexander - Some Systems Work Better Together (opens the original)
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Frank Alexander, deputy director of Boulder Housing Partners, joins Dr. Deb and Kelly to talk about taking a systems-level approach to hyper-local issues in human services. Frank spoke about how his experience in housing assistance taught him about the way human services systems can utilize data to improve outcomes. He also describes the way those systems often fail the people they serve, and specifically how the overuse of investigations as a tool can erode trust. Before his current role at BHP
Stephanie Muth - Hungry for Curiosity and Change (opens the original)
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Dr. Deb and Kelly are joined by Stephanie Muth, the executive commissioner of the Texas Health and Human Services Commission, to talk about the importance of “why” in organizational leadership. She also spoke about how good internal communications supports the work being done by the department, and ways to integrate interagency collaboration into both the planning and execution of the services being provided by the agency. Before her current role as executive commissioner, Muth served as commiss
Christine Norbut Beyer — How Listening Makes Change Last (opens the original)
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Dr. Deb and Kelly are joined by Christine Norbut Beyer, the former Commissioner of New Jersey’s Department of Children and Families, to talk about building systems that listen to the people they serve, support their employees, and last beyond any one leader. Christine discusses how the department navigated crises under her leadership and the lessons she learned while bringing all stakeholders to the table to support children and families. Before spending more than eight years at NJDCF, Beyer ser
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