HeyJaredGrey The Podcast
Grey is a podcast that cuts through the theory to explore the real-world challenges of building high-performance environments in corporate Australia. Hosted by powerhouse duo Rajan Kumar — entrepreneur, business founder, and advisor to Australia’s biggest brands — and Dr.
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Episode 9: Fuel vs Friction - What Happens When You Bring OD In-House (opens the original)
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What really changes when organisational development (OD) stops being something you bring in and becomes something you build in? In this episode of Grey, Dr. Mel Irons and Rajan Kumar continue their look back at the business Rajan co-founded, this time covering years three and four. That was when the founders made a big bet: replacing an external OD consultant with an in-house OD leader who reported straight to the CEO. They get honest about why it was a gamble, the "what are we actually getting
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