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Every episode, I bring in a guest with a unique point of view on a critical matter, phenomenon, or business trend—someone who can help us see things differently. aiproem.substack.com

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Sep 23, 2026
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  1. Episode · Sep 23, 2026

    How AI Is Actually Changing Product and Design (opens the original)

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    In this episode, I speak with Aoni Wang, product designer at Harvey, and Yiyang Hibner ( Silicon & Spice with Yiyang ), product manager at Airbnb, about how AI is changing the way they work day-to-day. This conversation is a bit more light-hearted than the usual conversations on AI Proem, but I think it is equally insightful because these two professionals work in the heart of Silicon Valley, and they give us a glimpse into how people are really adopting AI. Both are already using AI as part of

  2. Episode · Aug 4, 2026

    From Sourcing Engine to Agentic Commerce with Alibaba's Accio Agent (opens the original)

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    In this episode, I speak with Ziwei Chen, product marketing lead for Accio Work at Alibaba.com, about Alibaba’s effort to turn decades of sourcing data and commerce know-how into an agentic business platform for small and medium-sized businesses. Accio began as an AI sourcing engine, but Accio Work is designed to support a broader workflow, from product strategy and supplier selection to store operations, marketing and growth. The most interesting distinction is between AI that tells a business

  3. Episode · Jul 28, 2026

    The Future of Agentic Payments with Clink Founder Patrick Wu (opens the original)

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    In this episode, I spoke with Patrick Wu, Founder and CEO of Clink , about what payments need to look like in an agentic commerce world. Patrick previously worked on payments infrastructure at Amazon and AWS Payments, and later led global payments at Temu as the company expanded market by market. His view is that payments today are largely built for humans at checkout, but not yet for agents acting under delegated authority. The conversation started with a basic but important question: if Stripe

  4. Episode · Jul 21, 2026

    Pony.ai’s Founder and CEO James Peng on What It Takes to Scale Robotaxis (opens the original)

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    When James Peng founded Pony.ai in 2016, many in Silicon Valley believed autonomous driving was only three to five years away. But he expected it would take at least a decade, because the challenge was never just teaching a car to drive. Commercialization also required regulatory approval, public trust, reliable fleet operations, and a cost structure that could support large-scale deployment. Ten years later, his vision is becoming reality. In this conversation, we start with his founding journe

  5. Episode · Jul 14, 2026

    From Beauty Apps to AI Agents: Meitu’s CFO Gary Ngan on the Future of Visual AI (opens the original)

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    In this episode, I spoke with Gary Ngan, CFO of Meitu, about how the company is evolving from its roots in consumer photo editing into a broader AI-native visual creation platform across photo, video, design, and agents. For many investors, Meitu is still associated with beauty editing and selfie apps, but Gary frames the company today as an AI application company serving both leisure use cases and productivity workflows. We spent a lot of time on Meitu’s business edge: why visual AI is not just

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