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Complicating The Narrative

In this podcast, hosted by Dr. Salma Abdalla—Assistant Professor and Director of the Healthier Futures Lab at Washington University in St. Louis—we provide rigorous, evidence-based analysis of complex population health challenges.

Podcast · By Salma Abdalla · English · Official site

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Sep 8, 2026
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  1. Episode · Sep 8, 2026

    Listening to patients to improve health systems with Margaret Kruk (opens the original)

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    When was the last time a health system asked people for what they needed? Margaret Kruk joins Salma to discuss health systems and one of their key components: the experience of patients. They start their conversation with an overview of the functions and components of a health system and highlight that, similar to other service industries, healthcare needs to function for the people it serves and should check-in with these end-users. Margaret revisits her early-on experiences as a family doctor

  2. Episode · Aug 18, 2026

    Closing the know-do gap in global public health with Kumanan Rasanathan (opens the original)

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    In this last episode of the Building Better Ways of Knowing (BBWK) mini-series, Kumanan joins Salma to discuss knowledge systems and their articulations with public health practice in the global context. They begin the conversation by reflecting on knowledge systems, how they have privileged and excluded different forms of knowledge, and how they have lagged behind transformations across other dimensions of society. They then touch on Kumanan’s experience working for a meningococcal B vaccine ra

  3. Episode · Aug 14, 2026

    Purple Public Health episode—NIH funding, broken by design with Michael Lauer (opens the original)

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    Almost nothing about how the United States government funds health research was chosen. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) began with leftover penicillin money and a letter to medical school deans. The decision to fund projects rather than people came from a foundation protecting itself during the Depression. The paperwork came from a congressman who was annoyed in 1962. Michael Lauer spent nearly two decades at the NIH, serving as Deputy Director for Extramural Research from 2015 until 202

  4. Episode · Aug 11, 2026

    With, not for: communities as public health co-designers with Sara Bannoura and Darren Jackson (opens the original)

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    Sara and Darren join Salma to discuss Civic City’s community-first model. They start the conversation by exploring how Civic City uses knowledge, narrative, and design to co-create solutions with communities. To make this tangible, they delve into the Food City STL initiative, which started off by deep community listening and led to a city resolution declaring food as a human right. Pertaining to the role of academic research and knowledge generation, Sara and Darren talk about their collaborati

  5. Episode · Aug 4, 2026

    The future of higher education with Mitchell Stevens and Sandro Galea (opens the original)

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    This episode is a re-run of the Ideas Matter podcast episode “The Future of Higher Education” hosted by Dean Sandro Galea—Vice Provost for Interdisciplinary Initiatives at WashU and Co-Director of the Building Better Ways of Knowing initiative—in conversation with Professor Mitchell Stevens. The original episode was released by Ideas Matter on May 26, 2026. In this episode, Dean Galea and Dr. Stevens discuss the current state of higher education, and the challenges and opportunities that result

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