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Welcome to Chalk and Gavel, exploring how the law shapes education, one case at a time. Join education professors Chris Thomas and Jamie Kudlats as they demystify the complex, ever-changing, and fascinating world of school law.
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79 | Religion and Discrimination: Previewing the St. Mary v. Roy SCOTUS Faith-Based Pre-School Case (opens the original)
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Colorado’s new universal pre-K program is headed for a Supreme Court showdown in St. Mary v. Roy —and it puts a familiar education-law question on a sharper edge: when a state opens a publicly funded program to private (including faith-based) providers, can it require those providers to follow nondiscrimination rules that protect families’ sexual orientation and gender identity, or must the Free Exercise Clause require an exemption? In this episode, we preview the case through the 10th Circuit d
78 | Lemons and Stones: The Ten Commandments are Back in Classrooms…Live from the McCarthy Institute (opens the original)
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Can a state require public schools to post the Ten Commandments in every classroom? In this episode, recorded live at the Martha McCarthy Education Law & Policy Institute, we unpack Nathan v. Alamo Heights , the Fifth Circuit’s decision upholding Texas’s law requiring public elementary and secondary schools to display the Ten Commandments in every classroom. The case revisits an issue we first explored in connection with Louisiana’s similar law, but this time against a rapidly changing constitut
77 | Bedrooms and Boundaries: WebcamGate and Its Implications for Schools and Student Privacy (opens the original)
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What happens when a school district secretly activates student laptop webcams inside their homes? In this episode, we unpack Robbins v. Lower Merion School District , the infamous Pennsylvania school surveillance case better known as “Webcamgate.” The case began after a high school student was confronted by an assistant principal with a photograph taken through his school-issued laptop’s webcam—inside his bedroom. What followed exposed a district-wide surveillance system that had captured tens o
76 | Religion and Opt Outs: How Schools and Courts are Navigating the Ambiguity of Mahmoud v. Taylor (opens the original)
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What happens after the Supreme Court says parents have a religious right to opt their children out of public school instruction that conflicts with their religious beliefs?In this episode, we unpack Alan L. v. Lexington Public Schools , one of the first federal court decisions to apply the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Mahmoud v. Taylor . The case began when the father of a kindergartener sought to opt his son out of curriculum addressing sexual orientation, gender identity, and family stru
75 | Stop the Presses: Cathy Kuhlmeier and the Story Behind the Landmark "Hazelwood" Decision (opens the original)
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What if one of the most influential Supreme Court decisions in education looks very different when you hear the story from the person who lived it?In this special episode, we're joined by Cathy Kuhlmeier, the student journalist at the center of Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier —the landmark Supreme Court case that has shaped student speech and student journalism in schools for nearly four decades. While most educators know the legal standard, far fewer know what actually happened inside th
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