Beyond Billable Podcast
AI is reshaping professional services. Beyond Billable dives into how these shifts impact lawyers, consultants, and accountants—featuring conversations with industry leaders and innovators on staying ahead of the curve.Host: Pim Betist Hosted on Acast.
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Daan Potjer: From AI Adoption to AI Adaptation (opens the original)
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AI adoption was only the first step for firms. The next challenge is adapting the law firm around it. Pim Betist sat down with Daan Potjer, Director of Commercial and Legal Excellence at Loyens & Loeff. Daan is not a lawyer. Before joining Loyens & Loeff, he built his career in finance and real estate, most recently as COO of Colliers. That gives him an outsider’s perspective on how legal services are organised and what needs to change next. Pim and Daan talk about why AI adaptation will affect
Bert Vries: Ignore the Hype, Prepare for the Tsunami (opens the original)
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This episode is an English summary of Pim Betist’s conversation in Dutch with Bert Vries, Head of Innovation, Knowledge and Technology at CMS Netherlands, about what it really takes to prepare a law firm for AI. We explain why the short term impact of AI is often exaggerated while its longer term consequences may be underestimated. We share how CMS uses controlled experiments, firm wide access to Harvey and practice specific use cases to turn AI adoption into measurable value. We also cover why
Bert Vries: Negeer de hype, bereid je voor op de tsunami (opens the original)
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Pim Betist spreekt met Bert Vries, Head of Innovation, Knowledge and Technology bij CMS Nederland, over wat er nodig is om een advocatenkantoor voor te bereiden op AI. Bert legt uit waarom de impact van AI op korte termijn vaak wordt overschat, terwijl de gevolgen op langere termijn mogelijk worden onderschat. Hij vertelt hoe CMS werkt met gecontroleerde experimenten, kantoorbrede toegang tot Harvey en praktijkgroepspecifieke toepassingen om AI om te zetten in meetbare waarde. Ook bespreken ze w
Lucienne van der Geld: The Human Advantage for Notaries in an AI driven World (English summary) (opens the original)
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This is an English summary of my conversation with Lucienne van der Geld, managing director of Netwerk Notarissen and lecturer in notarial law at Radboud University. Lucienne occupies a unique position in the debate on legal AI. She strongly believes in the importance of human judgement, empathy, and independence in the legal profession. At the same time, she is one of the driving forces behind AI adoption within the notarial sector. I went into this conversation convinced that AI would eventual
Lucienne van der Geld: de paradox van AI, meer technologie vraagt om meer menselijkheid (opens the original)
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In deze aflevering spreek ik met Lucienne van der Geld, directeur van Netwerk Notarissen en docent notarieel recht aan de Radboud Universiteit. Lucienne neemt een bijzondere positie in binnen het debat over juridische AI. Ze gelooft sterk in het belang van menselijk oordeel, empathie en onafhankelijkheid in het juridische vak. Tegelijkertijd is ze een van de drijvende krachten achter de AI adoptie binnen de notariële sector. Ik begon dit gesprek met de overtuiging dat AI uiteindelijk een groot d
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