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Between Two Ellens is a podcast hosted by Oklahoma state representatives Ellyn Hefner and Ellen Pogemiller. Together, they dive into pressing state issues through both a legislative and community lens.
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A Live Show! (with Andy Fugate) (opens the original)
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The Ellens* are joined by Rep. Andy Fugate to discuss the upcoming August 25th election and the two state questions that will appear on the ballot (SQ844 and SQ846). What's covered: State Question 844 (Property Tax / Ad Valorem Exemptions): The history of Oklahoma's manufacturing tax exemption dating back to the 1980s oil bust, how it works today, and what changes SQ 844 would make to who controls reimbursement dollars for local communities, schools, and county services. State Question 846 (Vote
Perspective from an elder statesman (with Mickey Dollens) (opens the original)
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The Ellens* sit down with Oklahoma City Representative Mickey Dollens for one of their most unexpected conversations yet. Before politics, Mickey played college football at SMU, honored his late brother by trying out for the NFL, and competed on the U.S. Olympic bobsled team. The oil bust eventually pushed him into teaching — and a layoff pushed him into running for office. Now in his 11th year at the Capitol, Mickey talks ballot initiative reform, education funding, economic diversification, an
Oklahoma feeds the world (with Blayne Arthur) (opens the original)
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The Ellens* interview Secretary Blayne Arthur, the longest-serving secretary in Governor Stitt's administration, overseeing the Oklahoma Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry. Secretary Arthur shares her unlikely path to the cabinet, her deep roots in Oklahoma's 4-H and FFA community, and why agriculture matters to every Oklahoman — from food safety and rural infrastructure to youth development and economic opportunity. The conversation covers the Oklahoma Youth Expo, the challenges of so
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