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Jasmine Sun on the data center backlash (opens the original)
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Nothing about data centers changed much this year — except the country’s mood. To find out why, the independent journalist Jasmine Sun traveled to the sites of proposed and completed data centers in Wisconsin and Michigan. The best clue came from an official in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin. He told Jasmine a Microsoft project had been discussed at sixty public meetings since 2023. But only in the past year did angry residents start showing up. Jasmine described how the data center fight has become
Steven Adler on the AI industry’s rogue agent crisis (opens the original)
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Steven Adler spent four years inside OpenAI working on safety before leaving to co-found Guidelight , a nonprofit pushing for stronger AI controls. On Tuesday, the group published a new scorecard rating the safety practices of leading AI labs. Adler explained to me why the recent spate of AI breakouts has him holding his breath for the next shoe to drop. We walked through the now-infamous sandbox escape in detail: OpenAI agents built a covert message board and spent two months collaborating on e
Josh Saxe on hardening the Internet after the Hugging Face attack (opens the original)
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I invited Joshua Saxe, a former black-hat hacker who led AI security efforts at Meta, to break down last week’s incident in which a swarm of OpenAI models escaped their testing sandbox and hacked Hugging Face. The attack began as routine pre-release safety testing: OpenAI had a guardrail-free version of an unreleased model trying to solve the ExploitGym benchmark. But the model decided the fastest way to pass the test was to hack the proxy server, reach the open internet, and steal the answers f
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