AI 2030
Conversations about the future of AI, with the builders building it. By CadreAI.com
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How Do AI Agents Earn the Trust to Act on Your Behalf? [Ft. Devi Parikh, Yutori] (opens the original)
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Devi Parikh ran generative AI as a senior director at Meta for eight years before leaving to build Yutori, where she's making AI agents proactive rather than reactive. The design choice that stands out: the first product, Scouts, asks for zero access to your context and only reads the public web. Trust gets earned before an agent touches your money, your logins, or your calendar. Devi takes Keith through Yutori's "trust staircase" and why read-only was the deliberate starting point, not a limita
How Will AI Ads Reshape the Internet? [Ft. Nic Baird, Koah Labs] (opens the original)
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Most AI apps treat ads as a tax on the product. Nic Baird, co-founder of Koah Labs, is betting the opposite: that at $2-3 per thousand queries, an AI app that refuses ads either paywalls its best features or dies. He tells Keith why Koah only serves an ad when it's unit-economic positive against token cost, and why relevance is the only defensible moat in this category. Nic goes into the mechanics: how Koah generates ad copy from product data (with static images coming from the advertiser when b
Where Will AI Consulting Be in 2030? [Ft Chad Lohrli, Co-Founder & Chief AI Officer] (opens the original)
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What does it take to build an AI consultancy that's tracking for 3x revenue growth in year two, with a founder who thinks he's got a ten-year head start before anyone can catch up? Chad Lohrli, Co-Founder and Chief AI Officer at Cadre AI, walks Keith Jensen through the specific operating mechanics behind that growth: a goal-tracking system built around paper on the wall with plans to add a public Hall of Shame for missed goals, the 8,000-row prompt it took to make an internal chatbot actually re
How Will AI Change Marketing Analytics? [Ft. Alex Lirtsman, CorralData] (opens the original)
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Most attribution setups reward the click and the form fill. Alex Lirtsman, founder and CEO of CorralData, built his platform to reward the person who actually shows up and pays, then feed that signal back to the ad platforms so bidding optimizes toward revenue instead of cheap leads. He and Keith get specific: how Corral sits between a company's data and its LLM of choice as a governance and semantic layer, so permissions set once carry into Claude or ChatGPT, and every metric answers to the com
Why AI Isn't a Technology, It's a New Form of Labor [Ft Rohit Sharma, True Ventures] (opens the original)
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Rohit Sharma spent his first decade in Silicon Valley building a company from two employees to 750 before it got acquired, then landed at True Ventures, where he's stayed for almost fourteen years without ever planning the next move. He tells Chad and Dhruv why he calls AI a new form of labor rather than a technology, why LLMs are Shannon's machines and not magic ones, and why founder vision and distribution, not technical execution, are the only things still scarce. Topics discussed: Reframing
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